after the election obama sits down with boehner. they wait until the middle of december because obama has been slow walking boehner's proposal were right after the election. and the president is pretty tough. he doesn't want to give anything that he was giving away back in the grand bargain talk. and he doesn't think boehner at $800 billion is giving him enough. that's a signal right there that things are not going to go well back in december, and we know now that they're not going well looking intoed future. >> cenk: in you're progressive you have to be ecstatic that joe biden purposely or accidently screwed up the grand bargain negotiations because it would have been a disaster for progressiveses. if you're a republican you're thinking that tea party knuckle heads would regarding the deal. >> the tea party clash is what gave the majority the midterm election what the president called shallacking, that group that 87, the unruly, unorthodox freshman who came in a little bit like dick the butcher in hen 6th who said the first thing w